{"id":5304,"date":"2026-05-11T20:23:00","date_gmt":"2026-05-11T20:23:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/rjbarrett.redirectme.net\/?p=5304"},"modified":"2026-05-11T20:23:00","modified_gmt":"2026-05-11T20:23:00","slug":"maya-hawke-has-learned-what-love-really-is","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rjbarrett.redirectme.net\/?p=5304","title":{"rendered":"Maya Hawke has learned what love really is"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div data-element=\"story-body\" data-subscriber-content=\"\">\n<p>Maya Hawke sits at a picnic table in Griffith Park with an iced tea and a small notebook and happily reports that she still likes her new record.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cEvery other album cycle I\u2019ve done, by the time I got to the point where the album came out, I hated it,\u201d says the 27-year-old singer and actor. \u201cI was just exhausted by the internet and by being public, and I wouldn\u2019t want to post about it. So I kind of tried to build this rollout where it could be enjoyable. And it seems to be working.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>On this recent morning, she\u2019s about a week and a half from releasing \u201cMaitreya Corso,\u201d a set of deep-thinking folk-pop songs about love and art and how the two intersect; to help drum up interest in the LP, Hawke\u2019s fourth, she\u2019s on tour playing intimate live gigs like the one she did last night at the Troubadour, where she was accompanied by Christian Lee Hutson, with whom she made the record.<\/p>\n<p>Hutson, who\u2019s known for his work with Phoebe Bridgers, is also Hawke\u2019s husband: After collaborating on her 2022 album \u201cMoss\u201d and 2024\u2019s \u201cChaos Angel,\u201d the two were married this past Valentine\u2019s Day in Hawke\u2019s hometown of New York. (You may have seen the pictures in People magazine of the couple on the street with Hawke\u2019s parents, Ethan Hawke and Uma Thurman, and her castmates from \u201cStranger Things.\u201d)<\/p>\n<div class=\"enhancement\" data-click=\"enhancement\" data-align-center=\"\">\n<div class=\"video-enhancement\" data-video-disable-history=\"\">\n<div class=\"video-enhancement-player\">  <ps-youtubeplayer data-video-player=\"\" class=\"youtube-video-player video-player youtube-video-player-facade\" data-player-id=\"f620cb32231e240749b18688acae968ec\" data-video-id=\"UOq9hJG4-m0\" data-video-title=\"Maya Hawke - Devil You Know (Official Audio)\" data-slot-name=\"\/21787098806\/web.latimes\/entertainment-arts\/music\/video\" data-lazy-offset=\"1.0\" data-autoplay-threshold=\"50\" data-miniplayer=\"\" data-internal-video-id=\"UOq9hJG4-m0\" data-ad-slot-name=\"\/21787098806\/web.latimes\/entertainment-arts\/music\/video\" data-ad-provider=\"ima\" data-ima-sdk-url=\"https:\/\/imasdk.googleapis.com\/js\/sdkloader\/ima3.js\" data-ima-ad-tag-url=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/ads?sz=640x480&amp;gdfp_req=1&amp;env=vp&amp;output=vast&amp;unviewed_position_start=1&amp;cmsid=2652439&amp;ad_rule=0&amp;plcmt=1\">  <picture><source srcset=\"https:\/\/img.youtube.com\/vi_webp\/UOq9hJG4-m0\/maxresdefault.webp\" type=\"image\/webp\"\/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/img.youtube.com\/vi\/UOq9hJG4-m0\/maxresdefault.jpg\"\/><img id=\"yt-img-UOq9hJG4-m0\" class=\"absolute\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/img.youtube.com\/vi\/UOq9hJG4-m0\/hqdefault.jpg\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\"\/> <\/picture> <button type=\"button\" class=\"youtube-video-player-facade-button\" aria-label=\"Play\"> <svg class=\"icon\"><use xlink:href=\"http:\/\/www.latimes.com\/styleguide\/assets\/misc-icons.svg#icon-youtube-play\"\/><\/svg> <\/button>      <\/ps-youtubeplayer> <\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p>As we talk, Hawke wears the same vintage Beastie Boys T-shirt she had on at the Troubadour; when we\u2019re finished, she\u2019s got a flight to catch to Denver for her and Hutson\u2019s next show.<\/p>\n<p><b>I was struck last night by the intense eye contact between you and your husband.<\/b><br \/>I\u2019ve never played guitar before onstage, and so I think a lot of that is me being nervous and wanting to keep rhythm. I\u2019m looking at his eyes but also at his hands. His chordal shapes are different than mine but I\u2019m following the rhythm to make sure I\u2019m staying in the pocket.<\/p>\n<p><b>Why didn\u2019t you play guitar before?<\/b><br \/>I\u2019ve been playing since I was 11, but I reached a point where I was getting better a lot slower than my brother was or than other people in my life. You pick up the guitar to play and then a bunch of guys sit down next to you and they\u2019re like, \u201cOh, can we jam?\u201d And you\u2019re like, \u201cI don\u2019t know if I <i>can<\/i> jam. I was trying to write a song and now you\u2019re noodling all over me. You know what? I\u2019ll just put it down.\u201d Later, when I started making music professionally, I met all these extraordinary musicians, and I thought: Why would I play guitar when I\u2019m not as good as you are? Then I really hated doing shows.<\/p>\n<p><b>Because of that?<\/b><br \/>I\u2019m not a dancer \u2014 I don\u2019t want to be a pop star and do dance moves. I don\u2019t have a big Adele voice. And standing up there and just singing \u2014 I was like, I should be at a poetry reading. So I made myself a promise that if I made another record I would have to play guitar and write songs that I can play.<\/p>\n<p><b>It\u2019s funny: You were both super locked-in during the songs, but then between them your banter was extremely loose.<\/b><br \/>I wanted to build a show that was a concert I would want to go see. I\u2019m weird \u2014 I don\u2019t love concerts, but I do I like it when people talk. I can hear the record at home \u2014 what I don\u2019t get at home is a sense of the person.<\/p>\n<p><b>Who would you say are some of music\u2019s great between-song talkers?<\/b><br \/>Hmm.<\/p>\n<p><b>I think <\/b><b>Adele<\/b><b> might be the best I\u2019ve seen.<\/b><br \/>She\u2019s really good. I saw her once when I was younger \u2014 I had a year where my dad took me to see all the biggest women of that year. I remember thinking: When I leave the theater, I\u2019m filled only with joy and no jealousy because I could never do what she\u2019s doing. That\u2019s a gift from God, and I\u2019m not in competition with that gift.<\/p>\n<p><b>But after she hits you with that, she\u2019ll just freestyle for three or four minutes.<\/b><br \/>That\u2019s what I want too \u2014 I want to see some humanity, especially these days when everybody is being force-fed so much perfection and so much unattainable grace.<\/p>\n<p><b>There are a tremendous number of words on this record.<\/b><br \/>It\u2019s very verbose.<\/p>\n<p><b>Why?<\/b><br \/>I love words \u2014 lyrics are my favorite part of songs. One of the first songs that got written for this record was \u201cDevil You Know,\u201d which was like an experiment where I wrote this poem in free verse. I\u2019ve been in a fight with my husband about free verse versus poetic form. He\u2019s pro-free-verse, I\u2019m anti-free-verse.<\/p>\n<p><b>What\u2019s your beef?<\/b><br \/>My beef is: Free verse is great \u2014 I wish you could have spent a little more time making it rhythmically sound.<\/p>\n<p><b>To you it feels like \u2014<\/b><br \/>Like a first draft. The confines of a structure make your brain work in a different way: How do I get this idea across in a sonnet or a villanelle? But I tried writing this free verse thing, and I really liked it and wanted to write more things like that. Normally, I love the arrow of a Willie Nelson lyric, which is: What\u2019s the simplest way I can say the most complicated thing? And I have some of that on this record, like in \u201cBring Home My Man.\u201d But I also was like, What\u2019s the most complicated way I can say the simplest thing?<\/p>\n<p><b>OK, speaking of that: I read the essay you had this philosopher Justin Smith-Ruiu write about the album. I understood probably 11<\/b><b>%<\/b><b> of it.<\/b><br \/>I\u2019m obsessed with him. I read his Substack religiously \u2014 it\u2019s called the Hinternet. He\u2019s just a brilliant genius, and I was like, I don\u2019t know what he\u2019s gonna say, and I don\u2019t know if it\u2019ll make sense to anyone, but it\u2019ll make sense to me.<\/p>\n<p><b>Honestly, some of the songs might also have gone over my head. How important is it to you that the listener grasps everything that\u2019s going on in your music?<\/b><br \/>Zero percent important. I want people to take from it what they take from it. One of the coolest things in my life has been putting out songs and having people form crazy personal attachments \u2014 sometimes communal attachments, where all the people think it\u2019s about the same thing and they\u2019re all wrong. That\u2019s so much more interesting to me than if they just thought it was exactly what I thought it was.<\/p>\n<p><b>How do you listen to the songs you love? Are you trying to figure out where they came from?<\/b><br \/>Yes, but I don\u2019t care if I\u2019m right. I\u2019ve had many a debate about what [Elliott Smith\u2019s] \u201cSay Yes\u201d is about \u2014 gone through the lyrics with friends and been like, \u201cWouldn\u2019t you say that this supports my theory?\u201d But it doesn\u2019t matter to me what it is. It\u2019s just fun to try to connect all the dots.<\/p>\n<div class=\"enhancement\" data-click=\"enhancement\" data-align-center=\"\">\n<figure class=\"figure m-0\"> <picture><source type=\"image\/webp\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ca-times.brightspotcdn.com\/dims4\/default\/a25fcdd\/2147483647\/strip\/true\/crop\/5000x3334+0+0\/resize\/320x213!\/format\/webp\/quality\/75\/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F40%2F35%2Fb3d54bd04e26973e8b01444714c1%2Fgettyimages-2264666215.jpg 320w,https:\/\/ca-times.brightspotcdn.com\/dims4\/default\/35dfb29\/2147483647\/strip\/true\/crop\/5000x3334+0+0\/resize\/568x379!\/format\/webp\/quality\/75\/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F40%2F35%2Fb3d54bd04e26973e8b01444714c1%2Fgettyimages-2264666215.jpg 568w,https:\/\/ca-times.brightspotcdn.com\/dims4\/default\/6eac333\/2147483647\/strip\/true\/crop\/5000x3334+0+0\/resize\/768x512!\/format\/webp\/quality\/75\/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F40%2F35%2Fb3d54bd04e26973e8b01444714c1%2Fgettyimages-2264666215.jpg 768w,https:\/\/ca-times.brightspotcdn.com\/dims4\/default\/744809e\/2147483647\/strip\/true\/crop\/5000x3334+0+0\/resize\/1080x720!\/format\/webp\/quality\/75\/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F40%2F35%2Fb3d54bd04e26973e8b01444714c1%2Fgettyimages-2264666215.jpg 1080w,https:\/\/ca-times.brightspotcdn.com\/dims4\/default\/808a366\/2147483647\/strip\/true\/crop\/5000x3334+0+0\/resize\/1240x827!\/format\/webp\/quality\/75\/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F40%2F35%2Fb3d54bd04e26973e8b01444714c1%2Fgettyimages-2264666215.jpg 1240w,https:\/\/ca-times.brightspotcdn.com\/dims4\/default\/9b26120\/2147483647\/strip\/true\/crop\/5000x3334+0+0\/resize\/1440x960!\/format\/webp\/quality\/75\/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F40%2F35%2Fb3d54bd04e26973e8b01444714c1%2Fgettyimages-2264666215.jpg 1440w,https:\/\/ca-times.brightspotcdn.com\/dims4\/default\/f6ead43\/2147483647\/strip\/true\/crop\/5000x3334+0+0\/resize\/2160x1441!\/format\/webp\/quality\/75\/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F40%2F35%2Fb3d54bd04e26973e8b01444714c1%2Fgettyimages-2264666215.jpg 2160w\" sizes=\"100vw\"\/><img class=\"image\" alt=\"Maya Hawke and Christian Lee Hutson on March 03, 2026 in New York City.\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ca-times.brightspotcdn.com\/dims4\/default\/0510f83\/2147483647\/strip\/true\/crop\/5000x3334+0+0\/resize\/320x213!\/quality\/75\/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F40%2F35%2Fb3d54bd04e26973e8b01444714c1%2Fgettyimages-2264666215.jpg 320w,https:\/\/ca-times.brightspotcdn.com\/dims4\/default\/3d72cdc\/2147483647\/strip\/true\/crop\/5000x3334+0+0\/resize\/568x379!\/quality\/75\/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F40%2F35%2Fb3d54bd04e26973e8b01444714c1%2Fgettyimages-2264666215.jpg 568w,https:\/\/ca-times.brightspotcdn.com\/dims4\/default\/8ecf7e6\/2147483647\/strip\/true\/crop\/5000x3334+0+0\/resize\/768x512!\/quality\/75\/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F40%2F35%2Fb3d54bd04e26973e8b01444714c1%2Fgettyimages-2264666215.jpg 768w,https:\/\/ca-times.brightspotcdn.com\/dims4\/default\/4b76028\/2147483647\/strip\/true\/crop\/5000x3334+0+0\/resize\/1080x720!\/quality\/75\/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F40%2F35%2Fb3d54bd04e26973e8b01444714c1%2Fgettyimages-2264666215.jpg 1080w,https:\/\/ca-times.brightspotcdn.com\/dims4\/default\/dc7ffdd\/2147483647\/strip\/true\/crop\/5000x3334+0+0\/resize\/1240x827!\/quality\/75\/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F40%2F35%2Fb3d54bd04e26973e8b01444714c1%2Fgettyimages-2264666215.jpg 1240w,https:\/\/ca-times.brightspotcdn.com\/dims4\/default\/52f23f3\/2147483647\/strip\/true\/crop\/5000x3334+0+0\/resize\/1440x960!\/quality\/75\/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F40%2F35%2Fb3d54bd04e26973e8b01444714c1%2Fgettyimages-2264666215.jpg 1440w,https:\/\/ca-times.brightspotcdn.com\/dims4\/default\/495cd21\/2147483647\/strip\/true\/crop\/5000x3334+0+0\/resize\/2160x1441!\/quality\/75\/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F40%2F35%2Fb3d54bd04e26973e8b01444714c1%2Fgettyimages-2264666215.jpg 2160w\" sizes=\"auto, 100vw\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" src=\"https:\/\/ca-times.brightspotcdn.com\/dims4\/default\/b4ce53b\/2147483647\/strip\/true\/crop\/5000x3334+0+0\/resize\/2000x1334!\/quality\/75\/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F40%2F35%2Fb3d54bd04e26973e8b01444714c1%2Fgettyimages-2264666215.jpg\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\"\/>   <\/picture>\n<div class=\"figure-content\">\n<p>Maya Hawke and Christian Lee Hutson in New York in March.<\/p>\n<p>(Ilya S. Savenok \/ Getty Images for Tibet House US)<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/figure><\/div>\n<p><b>Break down the chronology of your and Christian\u2019s relationship. You made this record not as married people but \u2014<\/b><br \/>As engaged people.<\/p>\n<p><b>How did that compare to the previous album?<\/b><br \/>When we made \u201cChaos Angel\u201d we were maybe in a slightly uncanny valley of being friends who were in love but not together at all. But our working dynamic has always been pretty amazing, even from when we met doing \u201cMoss.\u201d Christian was really the person who made me want to play guitar and write music. He was like, \u201cWhat do you mean your music isn\u2019t good enough? Why, because you didn\u2019t go to jazz school? <i>I<\/i> didn\u2019t go to jazz school.\u201d That kind of belief really shaped my journey from \u201cMoss\u201d until this record.<\/p>\n<p><b>Are you the type of person who needs a facilitator?<\/b><br \/>I really enjoy support and encouragement, and I often need permission.<\/p>\n<p><b>I wonder why.<\/b><br \/>Just a couple of weeks ago, I was talking to someone, and I was like, I want to spend less time with this person, but I want <i>them<\/i> to want to spend less time with <i>me<\/i>. I don\u2019t want to be the one to draw the boundary \u2014 I need their permission to draw a boundary between us. My therapist was like, \u201cWe can work on that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><b>Is this classic child-actor people-pleasing stuff?<\/b><br \/>I wasn\u2019t a child actor.<\/p>\n<p><b>When did you start?<\/b><br \/>I did my first audition at 15 but I didn\u2019t get the part. Then I didn\u2019t end up working until I was 18.<\/p>\n<p><b>I\u2019d argue that at 18 the world still sees you \u2014<\/b><br \/>As a young person, yeah.<\/p>\n<p><b>But I take your point.<\/b><br \/>I don\u2019t know what it has to do with. It\u2019s not exactly people-pleasing. There\u2019s definitely an oldest-sibling thing I have a bit. I\u2019m very interested in sibling-order theory. I think it\u2019s extremely influential to who people are \u2014 better than astrology, for sure.<\/p>\n<p><b>You\u2019re older?<\/b><br \/>I\u2019m oldest of five. Generally, when I meet eldest siblings, there\u2019s a kind of interesting energy of someone who both needs to be in charge and needs a lot of permission.<\/p>\n<p><b>Has anything changed about the way you and Christian collaborate since you got married?<\/b><br \/>We\u2019re really happy, and we\u2019ve been really happy. It\u2019s awesome that we were friends for a long time first. When I got into relationships in the past, I would kind of pick the person that liked me the least. I didn\u2019t like myself very much, and I thought that someone who didn\u2019t like me must be a genius and that I could overcome my inherent ineptitude by getting them to like me. And in order to get them to like me, I would transform myself into becoming a person that they would like. Then we\u2019d have a very happy couple of months until I got bored of not being myself. What being friends with someone first did was that it made it very hard to trick them.<\/p>\n<p><b>Some of these new songs seem very clearly to be about the two of you.<\/b><br \/>Totally. A lot of this record is about how much I learned about what love really is \u2014 what it could be and how to be good to another person. My ideas about those things really transformed in the last couple of years.<\/p>\n<p><b>As a child of divorce, were you ambivalent about marriage?<\/b><br \/>I think if anything it was the reverse. I wanted to get married twice in my life. Once was when I was 18 years old, and it was definitely mental illness: I want the nuclear family that I didn\u2019t have, and I want it now. Then I was kind of neutral on whether or not I would get married. Then I met Christian, and I was like, \u201cI don\u2019t know if I\u2019m ready to be in this kind of relationship, but you\u2019re my person.\u201d And we stayed in each other\u2019s lives until it ended up being the right time.<\/p>\n<p><b>Plenty of people find their person without wanting to have a wedding.<\/b><br \/>Are you a romantic?<\/p>\n<p><b>I\u2019m not sure I know.<\/b><br \/>When I was younger, I imagined myself in a sort of French marriage where we both cheated on each other but didn\u2019t talk about it and had a lot of mutual respect. But I didn\u2019t find a French marriage \u2014 I found my best friend. You know what a piece of s\u2014 I am and you still love me? I wake up every morning still happy to see you? That\u2019s a miracle \u2014 we gotta have a party.<\/p>\n<p><b>Last thing: Did finishing \u201cStranger Things,\u201d which had defined the structure of your life for so long \u2014 did that change the way you think about making music?<\/b><br \/>It\u2019s changed the way I think about everything. Basically, from about four months before the show wrapped until a year after that, I was pretty freaked out.<\/p>\n<div class=\"enhancement\" data-click=\"enhancement\" data-align-center=\"\">\n<div class=\"video-enhancement\" data-video-disable-history=\"\">\n<div class=\"video-enhancement-player\">  <ps-youtubeplayer data-video-player=\"\" class=\"youtube-video-player video-player youtube-video-player-facade\" data-player-id=\"f502b950080734b81a0822deb597137e9\" data-video-id=\"Y-XLDNcNgwI\" data-video-title=\"Bring Home My Man\" data-slot-name=\"\/21787098806\/web.latimes\/entertainment-arts\/music\/video\" data-lazy-offset=\"1.0\" data-autoplay-threshold=\"50\" data-miniplayer=\"\" data-internal-video-id=\"Y-XLDNcNgwI\" data-ad-slot-name=\"\/21787098806\/web.latimes\/entertainment-arts\/music\/video\" data-ad-provider=\"ima\" data-ima-sdk-url=\"https:\/\/imasdk.googleapis.com\/js\/sdkloader\/ima3.js\" data-ima-ad-tag-url=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/ads?sz=640x480&amp;gdfp_req=1&amp;env=vp&amp;output=vast&amp;unviewed_position_start=1&amp;cmsid=2652439&amp;ad_rule=0&amp;plcmt=1\">  <picture><source srcset=\"https:\/\/img.youtube.com\/vi_webp\/Y-XLDNcNgwI\/maxresdefault.webp\" type=\"image\/webp\"\/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/img.youtube.com\/vi\/Y-XLDNcNgwI\/maxresdefault.jpg\"\/><img id=\"yt-img-Y-XLDNcNgwI\" class=\"absolute\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/img.youtube.com\/vi\/Y-XLDNcNgwI\/hqdefault.jpg\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\"\/> <\/picture> <button type=\"button\" class=\"youtube-video-player-facade-button\" aria-label=\"Play\"> <svg class=\"icon\"><use xlink:href=\"http:\/\/www.latimes.com\/styleguide\/assets\/misc-icons.svg#icon-youtube-play\"\/><\/svg> <\/button>      <\/ps-youtubeplayer> <\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p><b>Because you knew a big change was coming?<\/b><br \/>Because I didn\u2019t know how I would be reborn out of it. Even when I was resentful of being like, \u201cI\u2019m booked, and I can\u2019t do this other thing that I want to do,\u201d the show was so grounding. I was really lost without it. I\u2019m not freaked out about it anymore, but I\u2019m in a renegotiation of the structure of what I want my life to look like.<\/p>\n<p><b>Do you feel some kinship with your former castmates on that?<\/b><br \/>Everyone freaked out in different amounts and at different times and to different degrees of wanting to talk about it. But we all collectively had a very, <i>very<\/i> intense time moving through the last season.<\/p>\n<p><b>You\u2019ve got upcoming acting projects \u2014<\/b><br \/>I didn\u2019t actually die like I thought I was going to.<\/p>\n<p><b>But did <\/b><b>the end of that job<\/b><b> create space for music to play a bigger role in your life?<\/b><br \/>In some ways, it could become smaller. I had an ensemble part in a show that takes a year to film, which creates a tremendous amount of waiting-around time. I think that\u2019s why so many \u201cStranger Things\u201d actors have musical projects: You can\u2019t film anything else but you can sit in your house with your keyboard. What I\u2019ve really been feeling since the show ended was an invigorated desire to double down on acting. I\u2019ll never not make music, but the music industry is difficult for me. I don\u2019t know if it\u2019s just that I was raised in the acting industry and I understand the things that are f\u2014 up about it better.<\/p>\n<p><b>The music biz feels more opaque to you?<\/b><br \/>I struggle with some of the things that one should do in that industry to grow their project. When you\u2019re promoting a movie, you\u2019re on a team promoting an external item. When you promote a record, you\u2019re doing self-promotion: \u201cBuy my stuff. Do my thing. Put me on your chest.\u201d It feels a little too \u201cLook at me,\u201d which isn\u2019t my comfort zone.<\/p>\n<p><b>Better start making those TikToks.<\/b><br \/>Yeah, I can\u2019t. 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